A page from Paolo's notes: Rear View Mirror Re-View


 
A while back, on the Bluebirds Mailing List, I promised to give you my review of the AllView rear view mirror. I actually went a step further and compared 4 mirror systems. There are at least two other commercial after market mirrors available that I would like to test, but this is what I have to date. Evaluation was based on the following items:

         
  • 1. Field of vision
  • 2. Distortion
  • 3. Mounting
  • 4. Night operation
  • 5. Adjustability
  • 6. Cost & availability
 
I also added dimensions, weights, and features to the list, but not as evaluation criteria. This evaluation is based on application in the Datsun 510, but much of it is applicable to any passenger car, with full rear and side windows. The summary is as follows, in my order of preference:


ALLVIEW
 
field of vision: 150-165 degrees
mounting: double reticulating ball with glue to glass pad. Existing sun visors & mirror can be retained.
adjustability: full angular adjustability, limited by mirror contacting windshield
dimensions: 2-1/2"x17-3/4"
weight: mirror=15.5 oz bracket=5.1 oz
features: built-in sun visor
cost: $49.00 +$6.00 S&H
source:http://www.allviewmirror.com
observations: The AllView gives very good overall images of what is behind or to either side of you. It has a definite but uniform depth distortion - objects look further than they really are. At first, this was annoying and took some getting used to.
It takes up little windshield space. It offers minimal night anti-glare protection, though factory mounting allows for easy tilt to avoid glare. It is small enough and thin enough to not blocks view of streetlights when at intersection. The factory provided sun-visor works well.
By design, the AllView mounts directly in front of you, just above your line of sight of the road. This position gives you the greatest overall rear field of view, and also allows you to retain your existing rear view mirror if desired, but I find having both is distracting. Optionally, you can mount it in the center in place of existing mirror, but the center position skews your rearward field of view (hard to see car directly behind you). However, this position avoids nighttime glare of the most annoying lights of the cars directly behind you.
It is the most expensive mirror tested. I also object to the misleading advertising claim is that it comes with the patented AllView Windows Program. This is not a piece of software! It is simply a piece of paper that says if cars appear in only your rear window, it is safe to change lanes. If cars appear in any of your side windows, do not change lanes. It does work however, and using this concept is quite effective in abating the depth distortion problem.


WINK 5 panel
 
field of vision: 160-170 degrees
mounting: remove exist mirror & visors, L-brackets bolt to old sun visor holes w/ finagling
adjustability: none by design
dimensions: 35.5"x2-5/8"
weight: mirror=18.0 oz brackets=6.2 oz
features: built-in sun visor
cost: $24.95 +$7.50 S&H
sources: http://www.truechoice.com/store/bresults.asp?whl=1
http://www.talbotco.com/cat_body.htm http://www.howeracing.com/cockpit/cockpit11/index11.htm
Observations: The Wink gives the most accurate overall image of what is behind or to either side of you. It also has the least visual distortion of mirrors evaluated. There is no depth distortion but field of view is fractured by separate glass panels. Being such a large mirror, it takes a great amount of eye movement to verify images from one side to the other. Although Wink offers 3 and 4 panel designs (which I have not tested) I suspect that with fewer panes, the field of view would be reduced and/or the rearward image would not be as continuous as the 5 panel.
The Wink takes up a lot of windshield space. This is its biggest drawback. Not being able to see stop lights when at an intersection without cranning your neck, or any part of the top 15% of the windscreen is a definite problem. The Wink offers no night anti-glare protection. There is no factory provision for sun-visor, though mirror acts as visor at higher sun angles. It is also the heaviest of mirrors.
 
Note: Wink Mirror Modification from BMW-CCA tech tips http://www.bmwcca.org/tips/tipbody1.shtml Offers a suggestion to reduce headlight glare by installing a tinted plastic Sun Shield, available from Pilot Industries, 14314 Shadywood, Plymouth, Ml 48170 for $3. The 17" shield has clamps to be mounted on standard sun visors but adapts very well to the Wink. Sun Shields are also available in 15, 22, 25 and 28-inch models.

STOCK, upgrade (Nissan w/night)
 
field of vision: 67 degrees
mounting: stock unit from roof
dimensions: 2-1/2"x17-3/4"
weight: mirror=12.5 oz bracket=4.3 oz
features: night driving flip-up anti-glare
cost: $3.00-$20.00
source: local auto bone yard
observations: The stock 510 flat mirror gives you a simple view of what is directly behind you. It also does not have a night time anti-glare flip lever. Junkyard sources from most later model Datsun/Nissan cars (1978-80 version 510, 240Z,260Z,280Z, 610,710,810, Maxima, Pulsar, etc. are better made, a bit larger, and have the day/night lever for night time anti-glare operation. This is an easy retrofit as the mount uses the same 3 screw mounting patterns. Some versions can clip straight into the stock 510 base, while others should use the base from the donor car. Some models offer a little bigger mirror that stock, but no extended field of view. It is a worthwhile upgrade.


CIPA mirror, model 34000
 
field of vision: 110 degrees
mounting: clips on to stock mirror
dimensions: 3"x12"
weight: mirror=4.2 oz
features: none
cost: $8.00
source: Wall-Mart (mfg: CIPA USA Inc.
Port Huron, MI 480060)
observations: This is a cheap plastic wide angle mirror that clips onto your existing mirror. It extends your field of vision to almost twice that of the stock mirror, but not enought to adequately see cars clearly in your blind spots. It has quite a bit of distortion from side to side and objects definitely appear farther than they really are. Not recommended. Since it does not allow a wide enough field of view for a quality situation assessment and cars seem farther than they are, it is too likely to lead you into a "cut-off" situation and cause accidents. CIPA also make other mirrors, some similar to the AllView. I hope to locate and like one of these in the future.


Other mirrors not evaluated
 

Part_Number Description Price Source
Mir-R17-M 17" Panoramic Mirror, Fasten to Stock Mirror $19.95 ioportracing
Mir-R17-C 17" Panoramic Mirror, Fasten to 1½ to 1¾ Tubing $49.95 ioportracing
FS820 5 Star Mirror 17.7" x 3" - Flat NA Howe Racing Enterprises
FS820C 5 Star Mirror 17.7" x 3" - Curved NA Howe Racing Enterprises

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Misc Mirrors Sources
 

http://www.stenten.com/
http://www.golfcarttrader.com/Rear_View_Mirrors.htm

 
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